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To be clear, I think it’s absolutely worth visiting at least Siem Reap – I haven’t been elsewhere so I can’t comment. The temples are unbeatable, the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this countryside is beautiful, even the city has some aesthetic value, the food’s not bad, the locals are mostly pretty nice and friendly, especially the kids smiling at you and saying hello. But if you’re someone who’s easily upset, maybe avoid it because it’s not an easy country to visit. Damn I didn’t experience or see any of the things you’re talking about but it still felt bleak enough for me to leave this comment lol Portugal but specifically the Azores where I spent a month. I was learning Portuguese so connecting with local people. There was a definite gloominess and sadness – about tourism coming to the islands, but the necessity of that tourism, about the economy, and so on. It was less pronounced in Madeira where I spent the next month, but I didn’t connect with locals as easily. Then Lisbon just felt dreary – as soon as I hit Spain, Madrid blew me away with how different a vibe it was. I also spent time in Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Czech Republic but I knew here that there isn’t a culture of smiling like we do as much in the UK, and to not take that personally. Individuals that I met in these counties weren’t as dour as their initial facial expressions might have suggested.
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You said you noticed how different Madrid’s vibe compared to Portugal’s. Are people in Madrid/Spain happier and more cheerful compared to Portugal? (I keep hearing how people in Spain are more xenophobic though compared to those in Portugal….? Not sure how true that is…) I felt the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this opposite of what OP said about Lisbon and Madrid. People were awesome and very friendly in Lisbon. I made new friends every single night I went out. In Madrid, on the other hand, the people were colder. It’s a large city with a big city vibe. People seemed a lot more stressed and in a hurry. People from other regions of Spain say that all the time. Barcelona has a lot more relaxed vibe than Madrid. As for the Spanish being xenophobic, a lot of them are VERY xenophobic. Not everyone, of course. Just watch any football match and you’ll see thousands of them calling black players monkeys. Madrid and Sevilla are the worst big cities in that regard.



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I’m in Chile now and can’t wait to leave. I don’t mind the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this people, they are cold but they’re polite, but everything is so painfully bureaucratic and inconvenient. The country is beautiful but it’s been my worst month of travel by far. Top worst place I’ve ever been – I always wondered if it was because I seemed to be an American and they had a Pinochet trauma? But the hardest place I’ve ever tried to make a friend. I thought I had a friend that I’d met in nyc, who offered to let me move into her home. I made arrangements, they day in moving she tells me the price, I thought, well that’s weird but I don’t need to live there for free I guess (I was already paying somewhere else so I thought; it’s the same ?) two days after I arrive w my huge suitcase, she says, actually my trip was cancelled I’ll be back tonight so you have to leave
Lol so true. There are some locals who have great moods, like the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this owner at Grumpy Food Bar. She’s fantastic. But they are few and far between. I asked an ice cream lady what a particular flavor was, she said (translated) “how on earth should i know that? I’m not going to taste them all”. That was 4 years ago and it’s gonna stick with me forever. Edit: another one I’ll never forget, I tell this whenever someone asks me about the culture in Hungary. There was a billboard for piano lessons downtown Budapest. It was pleasant with a mother and a child at the piano. The top portion said the name of the place. The bottom portion gave the mother’s testimony which, translated, was something like “Its so simple, even my child could learn it”. Blew me away hahaha NOBODY smiled. Also, Dayton’s the only place in the world – including eastern Europe – where a retail employee has literally told me “that’s not my job,” then immediately walked away. And, this was a tiny store, not big box at all.
yeah when i was there it was surprisingly easy to make small talk and socialize with locals. just knowing a few serbian phrases always got smiles out of people haha I am Serbian but lived in USA, and there’s less fake smiling in Serbia but it’s generally a safer place and people are more eager to chill and hang out even though it doesn’t seem that way at first Everyone was always very nice to me and I really enjoyed my time there. I definitely didn’t mean to sound like people were not nice. It just seemed like everyone had a very straight face. I always felt safe there too. It doesn’t mean we’re angry or pissed off. To us it is strange when ppl from usa smile all the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this time to strangers. Just cultural differences
Definitely Hungary, they pride themselves on how depressive they are, the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this poetry, my lord, read some translations, they live for that sad shit. Japan, there’s like this festering pent up aggression behind a facade of politeness. People seem so dead inside especially students and working adults, the work/school culture is so obviously fucked up and taking a toll on everyone. Pretty eerie after living there long term and noticing it. I once watched a show on Japanese TV about a woman who could contact/see dead people. Whether you believe in stuff like that or not, one thing she said absolutely struck a true chord in me as a long time resident. When asked about the places she saw the spirits of the dead she said there were lots of them gathered at train stations every morning/night still waiting for the train to/from work. Even though they are dead, they were still caught in the hellish cycle of commuting, going through their daily work routine. Saddest shit ever!!
A line like that probably resonates heavily in the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this Japanese psyche (particularly in cities). It’s a deep, deep rut worn in the cultural subconscious. When did you live there? I was living in Tokyo in 2006 and had the same exact impression. I’ve noticed it got noticeably better in the past few years though. People seem a lot more chill and relaxed. For me 2018 was worse than now. The people seemed gloomier even back then pre-pandemic. I wouldn’t say now people are chill and relaxed but they seem a bit less … “boxed,” for lack of a better expression. Lived in Seoul and it felt similar. As a woman I definitely sensed that the aggression was often expressed as male on female violence. In the last six months I lived there a woman was beaten to death on the hiking trail behind my apartment. There was also a mass stabbing at my local metro stop, thirty minutes before I happened to be there.
Lowest birth rate, highest suicide. I rarely saw babies and when I rode the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this subway during rush hour (6pm to even 10pm) it was eerily quiet. In comparison, during rush hour in Bangkok people were chatting while being smooshed together. Korea is a pressure cooker of a society; extremely (and unfairly) competitive, judgemental, and very hierarchical. There’s some really cool things about the country, but the homophobia, misogyny, and religious wack-jobs really made it hard for me to see myself in the country long term. When I was traveling in Japan there was a couple who said the Japanese were like robots, and I urged them to branch out more. At the Mori Art Museum there were some modern art optical illusions and things which people were really playful around. The work culture is backbreaking, the service culture has this fake sheen over it, but people are people. Brazil had both sides. In São Paulo, the nightlife was fun but for day-to-day living everyone there seemed absolutely miserable, no big city I’ve been to comes close. The people in Salvador, and really the entire northeast, were so much friendlier, and very proud of their home, despite all the problems the country has.
If someone moved from Poland to UK 17 years ago, like I did, it was a massive change (for the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this better) in economic conditions, economic standards, or career opportunities. Right now, there are far better places and in European Union, too. In my opinion, as a (half) Polish expat, UK has declined and a lot. But I know people who move from India, Pakistan, or some African countries, who only just arrived in the UK, and are amazed at how life is over there, and are enjoying the country that I cannot stand anymore, having both a reference point of UK 17 years ago when I moved, but also other, better opportunities. People will have differing sensations re: the country’s vibe, depending on their own background and the reference points of where they’re coming from, too.
But for me, it was relief to go back to Brazil and see people talking randomly on the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this streets, dancing, making stupid jokes. South America still has vibes. My dads village in rural Guerrero, Mexico in the mountains people are very happy! Life is very simple. But overall mental health is very good lol seriously! Not sure how much use this type of anecdotal reporting is anyway. for example a couple people mentioned Portugal, where I found everyone to be friendly and upbeat for the most part. I do not see Mexico mentioned at all in this thread, nor most of south and central America or Africa… lots of world missing Overall though, in almost all places that lack sunshine I saw bad vibes and depressed people. It actually made me think how important lots of sunlight is for our wellbeing and how it affects our mood. Agreed, and what’s interesting is that I didn’t get that impression at all in Latvia, Estonia, or Poland. People, especially younger people, were very friendly and cheerful. IMO from appearances it looks worse than it is. It’s mostly the outer layer of northern-ish Europe people, with the tendency to be more reserved and focused on their own affairs. It’s this strange “cool light” in the baltics and nordics that makes people this way I feel…even in summer at the beach you cant really enjoy it bc it is cold windy and a lot of clouds, but when there is sun and no wind, it is amazing!
In Morocco everyone seemed very happy and eager to help, but once you got to know people they would tell you how utterly miserable they are… and they bitched and complained about how horrible their life was simply because they were Moroccan and not from some western country like the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this US. It left a sour taste in my mouth because I’ve been to much poorer and dangerous countries (Morocco is not dangerous AT ALL) and they acted like they were legit the worst place to live. I lived there for a year so met a lot of people and I’m telling you… literally every single one eventually would talk about this. Many try to get out by any means which usually means tricking anyone into marriage and getting residency abroad. My analysis is that due to their proximity to Europe and their country being so touristic (unlike other touristic countries they’re very open and get to know a lot of foreigners) they compare their lives constantly to how people in richer countries live, and this leads to hating their lives and relative lack of opportunities.
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Oddly, the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this wealthiest countries are often the most sober. Scandinavian, Austrians and Germans are all rather glum.African nations and Latin Americans nations although less wealthy seem much more exuberant. in all the places i have worked or visited under dictatorships or military rule, the populace seems sad and oppressed. Just a lot of seasonal depression and FOMO. Lots of smart people living good lives but unhappy with their weather. Not surprising given the history there. Tons of exploitation of indigenous people by the government, patrones,and mestizos and serious exploitation in foreign policy by the US. I’m part-Mexican and I noticed this too. But in my mind I didn’t take it so negatively, Guatemalans struck me as more “calm” whereas Mexicans are much more jovial and energetic, but also at times more chaotic and intense. Surprised Germany hadn’t been added yet and came to do it. Lived here 3 years and never get over how most Germans just go on like machines day after day. Barring summers, everyone is gloomy and ready to snap at you at any moment. People say it’s the weather etc, but the Dutch are extremely friendly and polite compared to Germans. Also went to live in Spain for a year and the culture shock just made me realise how weird the social structure of German society is. Thankfully I’ve made some good German friends to laugh it off.
When I got back to the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this US, the vibe here hit me like a ton of bricks. So many angry and upset people. Struggling financially and mentally. And now with the election coming, yikes. I just spent two years in Italy and came back to the US…. I feel the opposite. Americans appear surprisingly nice, talkative, and friendly. Europeans are much more closed off and grumpy When I got back to the US, the vibe here hit me like a ton of bricks. So many angry and upset people. Struggling financially and mentally. And now with the election coming, yikes. I’m heading back to Europe in a month, can’t wait. I find this interesting, because for Europeans the general idea of Americans is always cheerful, positive and optimistic – if only on the outside, but it’s always “How are you?”, “I’m great”, thumbs up, all smiley and so on.
Being Eastern/Central European by origins, I know that this area + a lot of Balkans, maybe, hits many Western Europeans or Americans like a ton of bricks when they travel there or deal with immigrants from those regions. You ask someone how they are, and there’s no end of them telling you about their work problems, illnesses, family issues etc. – which is definitely not something you talk about, unless with very close friends in the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this UK for example. They also often don’t preserve the general politeness in English, but that’s because a lot of languages in those regions don’t really have grammatical constructs responsible for that – so, if someone doesn’t really speak native English with all the speech figures, fixed phrases and so on, but communicates by translating from, say, Polish, Romanian or Hungarian to English, it comes across as rude, brash and uncourteous. If you try and and say things like “Would you please be kind enough to…” in Polish, it just sounds fake, exaggerated and unnatural.
But, I find a lot of Eastern Europe is quite gloomy in general. Russia too. People don’t smile in public, don’t even talk, or if they do it’s pretty hushed down and quiet. It’s weird if you’re louder/gesticulating or you smile in public, and people feel it’s quite suspicious – or that you might be mentally insane lol. I think there’s a lot of cultural heritage that causes it, the Los Angeles Dodgers And Lakers Recreate 88 shirt Besides,I will do this whole Soviet era and even though it’s 30 years since USSR fell down it’s still something embedded in people’s ways, that you should just keep yourself to yourself; utilitarian approach to traveling between places – you’re supposed to just go from A to B, being as little of a bother as possible to anyone, and only really show emotions when at home/amongst friends in a safe environment, etc.
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