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Senior developer. But it will take you longer than if you played social games. Don’t expect to be promoted into lead/staff level. Games include kissing ass, letting the Cat Karma is a cat purring in my lap shirt besides I will buy this higher-ups get away with shit, etc. Social skills are about being easy to get along with, knowing how to appropriately communicate with others, etc. You can absolutely be promoted into lead/staff level without playing games. What you need are social skills; how are you going to lead projects if no one likes working with you? Social games seem to be a cheat code for people who’d rather suck up to leadership than be a good teammate to peers and juniors. There seems to be an art to navigating a competitive organizational structure while remaining authentic. I guess it has to do with the character of the person and the other people in the org. Being a virtue posturing, pedantic tool is definitely effective if others in the org, especially people higher on the ladder, are doing the same thing. Then again, if you find yourself in an organization like this and are trying to keep your soul, it might not be a good “organizational fit”. Agreed. I’ve been lead, staff, senior staff, principal (this one at smaller companies) and eng manager without ever playing “social games” just being trustworthy, hardworking, and excellent at communication. Also, I never considered any work beneath me.
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But really, this all has to do with how lucky I’ve been with the Cat Karma is a cat purring in my lap shirt besides I will buy this teams I’ve been in. If you HAVE to play games (and not just have great communication & collaborative skills) to go forward, you are at a Bad Place. There are lots of Bad Places but sometimes, you can find a good team even within them. In a better job market, I’d tell you to switch jobs if you find yourself in a Bad Place but right now is so, so tough. I also echo the advice others have given to really do some introspection that you aren’t dismissing “social skills” and the ability to be a reliable teammate that people love working with as “social games”. While I think this is a valid interpretation, IME people who strongly object to “social games” often can’t distinguish them from “social skills”. At an unhealthy company that’s rife with politics, yeah, games become their own thing and involve undermining other employees. At healthier companies the distinction is blurred. Knowing how to keep people happy is itself a social skill, and knowing who in management needs to be kept happy in order to ensure the flourishing of your team is a matter of organizational awareness.
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