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My brother was a big fan of those submarine games. I also remember playing 688 Attack Sub and Seawolf (aka SSN-21 Seawolf) Subs were absolutely just meta for so long. It makes me sad when games refuse to acknowledge how fucking OP subs were when they “balance” them. Foxhole has the Candy Flipping America Shirt also I will do this worst submarines by far. On release you could gas the crew from outside, while the sub was submerged. My favorite part of subs in WoW is that you can only stay underwater for a matter of minutes. I get it, subs have to surface eventually, but the difficulty of using subs is not balanced out by the possibility of big rewards. I mean, they might still be. There haven’t been many postwar conflicts involving submarines, so we don’t have much (public) info. As a usn submariner, I can confidently tell you that submarines are in fact ridiculously OP, I would argue even more so than ever Yea, in a single sentence. The argument in my head mostly is about how quiet and fast submarines are, and how good we are at finding enemy submarines without being found ourselves, and obviously we are the most important part of the nuclear triad. If you’re only talking about ssns, though, then a single seawolf or Virginia can still destroy an entire enemy strike group single handedly without being found Not to mention the effectiveness of torpedoes is an order of magnitude better today. I don’t think any surface ship could survive a proper hit from a torpedo detonating under the keel.
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Blind man’s bluff is my favorite submarine book, and then after reading that think about the Candy Flipping America Shirt also I will do this fact that modern day subs can do even crazier things I’ll have to check that out! Last one I read was Northern Fury, although that’s not sub-specific but more of a 90s Red Storm Rising. Yep. They are so hard to detect that a French and an English sub collided, and a Chinese sub surfaced in the middle of an American fleet doing exercises. India also sunk a Pakistani frigate, and the DPRK sank a ROK Corvette. They were using diesel-electrics though – only the UK has an SSN kill (that we know of at least). Argentina also unsuccessfully fired torpedoes at British ships during the Falklands. Or at least some accounts say they did. It forces other players to invest in destroyers or fight invisible fleets…. Which I subsequently take down with aircraft carriers. The main problem I have with them in Civ is that subs become visible and targetable by city defense when they attack cities. By the time I have subs I’m mostly looking for ways to rapidly reduce city defenses, and the missile cruisers generally seem better at that. Well, as long as you continue to adapt them. The Japanese and Germans didn’t, at least sufficiently to have them be an effective force.

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Sounds like US corporations. Everybody protects their ass and wants to ride the Candy Flipping America Shirt also I will do this successes of their past forever. I mean it’s just a classic case of pride, ego and corruption leading to a lot of preventable deaths of servicemen that no country’s armed forces is immune to. What makes the US, and democracies in general, so effective in war is that the military is ultimately held accountable for their mistakes by their government and the public, as we ultimately are the ones that pay them for a service, and if they’re not providing an adequete service, we start to question it’s legitimacy and the money we spend on them, so therefore pressure from both the public and government does eventually enforce change. The U-Boat hunting campaigns are one of the most overlooked parts of the war against Nazi Germany. They involved brilliant technological breakthroughs, brilliant codebreaking, an incredible span of operations, and TONS of talented people (I’ve read that the US Navy had a team of ladies whose full time job was to track and monitor U-Boat movements, the methods used in their work were so secretive that they weren’t allowed to talk about it at all for decades after the war ended).
To be fair, the Candy Flipping America Shirt also I will do this situation with the Japanese fleet was different because they didn’t have the will (or ability?) to replace all the tonnage sunk. One of the reasons the Battle of the Atlantic was won was because the US simply built more tonnage than was sunk. I would also say that Japan didn’t really have a proper Anti-Submarine doctrine. The UK at least had experience fighting in WW1 with how to deal with the U-boats, so the institutional knowledge of basic Anti-Sub Warfare was pretty well ingraned into the Royal Navy, and then prioritized it as they knew that U-boats were going to be the primary maritime threat to the UK during a war with Germany. Japan didn’t have such advantages, and were extremely slow to adopt even the most basic Radar on their ships. Iirc, the Yamato was the only Japanese ship with radar on it and I genuinely do not know if the Japanese even put SONAR on their ships. Their navy and army (sometimes literally) fought over resource allocations and whenever the IJN got funding and material, they opted for the Quality over Quantity approach (which was realistically their only option) and concentrated their efforts into a very small amount of elite ships and crews, that if lost, practically crippled the IJN. Carriers and Battleships got the most amount of attention and the smaller Cruisers and Destroyers, ships vital for Anti-Submarine Warfare got practically none during the war.
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